{"id":18458,"date":"2022-03-23T11:15:27","date_gmt":"2022-03-23T18:15:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/?p=18458"},"modified":"2023-08-23T23:48:23","modified_gmt":"2023-08-24T06:48:23","slug":"dani-robertson-monthly-star","status":"publish","type":"darksky_news","link":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/news\/dani-robertson-monthly-star\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&amp;A with DarkSky Delegate Dani Robertson from Wales"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>Each month DarkSky International features a DarkSky Advocate from the worldwide network of volunteers who are working to protect the night<\/em>. <em>This month we\u2019re highlighting the work of Dani Robertson from Wales<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Meet IDA Advocate Dani Robertson\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JdJgjxASy2w?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What got you interested in protecting dark skies? How long have you been advocating for dark-sky conservation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have long been fascinated by the stars and space. In fact, I think this lifetime fascination comes from my favourite book as a child, \u2018Whatever Next?\u2019 by Jill Murphy. It follows a young bear who travels to the moon in a cardboard box rocket, with a colander for a helmet. At that time I was very young, living in a heavily light-polluted council estate. Not long after, my parents relocated us to a rural haven. The first thing that struck me was the darkness, not a single light for miles! I\u2019m fortunate to have a dad who was a big believer in taking us out to see the night skies. I remember vividly the first time I saw the Milky Way, I was 7. It totally blew my mind. I wanted to be an astronomer but sadly, at school, I didn\u2019t do too great in physics and math! So it\u2019s funny how my love of conservation and landscapes has ended up being my way into this world, combining space, stars, and science but also my love of the natural world and everything that exists under our dark skies. I don\u2019t remember the exact moment I became an Advocate, but I do remember being really annoyed as a teen as my area was developed and lights appeared everywhere. It took a little while longer before I heard the term light pollution. So in some ways, I\u2019ve always wanted to protect the dark, but I didn\u2019t have the words to describe what I was wanting to protect it from! Officially I became a Dark Sky Officer in late 2018, so I guess in an official capacity, that\u2019s the date.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: Can you tell us about dark skies in Wales?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Cymru (the Welsh name for Wales), our dark skies are something a lot of us have taken for granted. Many of us can look up and see thousands of stars from our doorsteps and haven\u2019t even considered that that view could be under threat. We also are home to towns and cities where we see very few stars at all. Swansea, Cardiff, Bangor, and Llandudno to name a few. <a href=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/places\/brecon-beacons-national-park-dark-sky-reserve\/\" data-type=\"darksky_place\" data-id=\"574\">Brecon Beacons National Park<\/a> was first to be named a <a href=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/what-we-do\/international-dark-sky-places\/reserves\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"238\">Dark Sky Reserve<\/a>, shortly followed by <a href=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/places\/snowdonia-national-park-dark-sky-reserve\/\" data-type=\"darksky_place\" data-id=\"4262\">Parc Cenedlaethol Eryri\/Snowdonia National Park and Elan Valley<\/a> which are a <a href=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/what-we-do\/international-dark-sky-places\/parks\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"240\">Park<\/a>. This was the catalyst for other areas looking at their skies and realising they had something special that needed protection too. In Wales, we have National Parks and also a smaller protected landscape called an <a href=\"https:\/\/landscapesforlife.org.uk\/#:~:text=An%20Area%20of%20Outstanding%20Natural,%2C%20people%2C%20business%20and%20culture.\">Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB)<\/a>. In the north, we have 3 of these AONB\u2019s, Ynys M\u00f3n, Pen Llyn, and the Clwydian Range &amp; Dee Valley. With Eryri National Park acting as the \u2018parent\u2019, these 4 landscapes came together to create the north <a href=\"https:\/\/www.discoveryinthedark.wales\/project-nos\">Wales Dark Skies Partnership (Prosiect Nos)<\/a>, and that is when I came along, to protect, enhance and promote the dark skies of all these places whilst helping the three AONB\u2019s get their own accredited status too. (We are getting there &#8211; slowly!) We run tons of outreach and engagement events using a \u2018pop-up\u2019 planetarium and our super cool Mobile Observatory!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00a0I think in Wales, we are much more comfortable with the idea of darkness. We are happy to live a more balanced lifestyle where our natural environment is allowed the space to shine. We are a people who are passionate about our landscapes, our heritage, and our history, something that is reflected above us in our night sky. We have some of the most accessible dark skies in the mainland UK, meaning our skies are important not just to us in Cymru, but also to our neighbours across the border. Our dark skies are our national treasure, the beaming Milky Way the jewel in our crown. We are working so hard to protect them, as is reflected in us being the country with the highest percentage of protected dark skies of anywhere in the world, but this is just the beginning. There is much more to be done.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: Why are dark skies important to the culture in Wales? What does your culture value about dark skies? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">We are nothing without our history, and we cannot move forward without honouring the past. In Wales, we have long told stories, long into the cold, dark nights of winter. We are famous for our stories, the Mabinogion (a collection of early folklore) are some of the oldest recorded stories in Britain, passed down from one generation to the next by word alone until they were finally committed to text in the 12th Century. It is many of these tales that are told in the skies above, linked to lessons in love, life, and living on the land. It\u2019s a big part of our identity, with many of us not realising how lucky we are until we have stood under the suffocated sky of a city.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-18481\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" src=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18481\" srcset=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-480x320.jpg 480w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-1440x960.jpg 1440w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-240x160.jpg 240w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-720x480.jpg 720w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Fiona-Llangwyfan-scaled-2160x1440.jpg 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption pt-4 mx-5 md:mx-0 !mb-0 !mt-0\">Fiona Collins, storyteller extraordinaire, tells the stories of the stars to families around a campfire.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: Are there interesting Welsh stories\/myths\/legends told in the stars?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our agricultural heritage is a strong theme, with the constellation of Hu Gadarn (Bootes), telling the story of the leader of the first people of Wales and how he taught them to use the plough. It links to real-life places on the ground such as yr Wyddfa (Snowdon) and Pwll yr Afanc on the Afon Conwy. Sadly, some of the constellations we know the names of, but we have long lost their meaning. I attribute some of this loss to light pollution. If we cannot see the stars, the stories cannot be told and those stories will be lost forever.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What resources have been most effective in your dark sky work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">A good, clear, simple guide to show members of the public how they can help. 99% of people want to do the right thing and lighting can seem overwhelming with all the options available. We have created a guide exactly for this purpose!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The other resources that have been the most useful are the people I have found to help along the way, from our volunteers who go out to gather data to the lighting designers and electricians who really get the dark sky movement and add their invaluable skills and knowledge to the cause.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What is your greatest success in dark sky conservation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">So far, probably the work at an outdoor centre called Plas Y Brenin, Capel Curig in Eryri\u2019s Dark Sky Reserve. I worked with <a href=\"http:\/\/Kerem\">Kerem Asforoglu<\/a> from Dark Source who totally redesigned the lighting at the centre. Previous to this, the lights were a hazard to people on the road, and people visiting found it difficult to navigate their way around in lights that were too powerful and full of glare. Birds would sing all through the night around the centre and it was a visible light polluter from miles around in what should have been one of our darkest areas. After Kerem worked his design magic, the impact was noticeable immediately. We could see the Milky Way clearly, bats flew around above our heads and the robins stopped singing at dusk. We saved the site owners a decent amount of money and reduced their emissions by two tons of carbon a year!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-18479\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"828\" height=\"841\" src=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Loveseat.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Loveseat.jpeg 828w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Loveseat-600x609.jpeg 600w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Loveseat-480x488.jpeg 480w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Loveseat-240x244.jpeg 240w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Loveseat-720x731.jpeg 720w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption pt-4 mx-5 md:mx-0 !mb-0 !mt-0\">Dark Sky lighting designed by Kerem Asfuroglu, overlooking Llynnau Mymbur. Part of the wider design project at Plas Y Brenin.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What is your favorite part about the night sky?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The way that it is never the same two nights in a row. That you can literally look out into the Universe, and see other galaxies and stars. It\u2019s a good grounder and a reminder that yes we are just tiny, fleeting moments, but also it\u2019s that great unknown that have pushed us as a species to think beyond ourselves and outside our world.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What is your biggest challenge working in dark-sky conservation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Clouds. Said every astronomer ever! Yes, it can be tricky, working around the weather. The other challenge is working in as many ways and formats as possible to try and reach as varied an audience as possible, to get light pollution into the hearts and minds of people.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What is your favorite thing to tell people during dark-sky events? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">They\u2019re just always really shocked about the impacts on humans and our biodiversity, and also how much light pollution is growing globally. It really makes people think.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter wp-image-18477 size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"2560\" src=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18477\" srcset=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-480x480.jpg 480w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-1440x1440.jpg 1440w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-240x240.jpg 240w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-720x720.jpg 720w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Afon-Lloer-Tryfan-Ian-McDowall-scaled-2160x2160.jpg 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption pt-4 mx-5 md:mx-0 !mb-0 !mt-0\">Snowdonia National Park, Ian McDowall<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: I\u2019ve heard there are glow worms in Wales, tell us about them! How are they impacted by light pollution? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">There absolutely is! So, first thing first, they\u2019re not worms, they are beetles. It is mainly the females who glow, emitting bioluminescence to attract males who fly around looking for the glow of the females. We are lucky in Wales that we have several sites that they live in, but they are being really impacted by light pollution. Males can\u2019t find females under streetlights or where there is a lot of sky glow around. This means they won\u2019t successfully mate, and that\u2019s the end of that. In fact, their numbers have plummeted by three-quarters since 2001 in the UK. Light pollution is playing a big role in their decline, along with the changing climate as our drier summers mean there are less prey around for the larvae to eat.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: I loved seeing that one of the Dark Sky Parks you work with hosts \u2018night swims\u2019, tell us about them! <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">These \u2018Starry Night Swims\u2019 are a way to be totally immersed in darkness and the skies above. On a still, clear summer evening, the lakes of Eryri are like mirrors to the Universe. You are literally, immersed in darkness and starlight. We all take in a float, like a pool noodle, and just lie around looking up. You don\u2019t get a sore neck this way! The water takes the weight. Being in a lake and with a guide means they\u2019re really safe events too. You can actually read about it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/travel\/2019\/sep\/27\/night-swimming-snowdonia-north-wales-lake\">here<\/a>!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: What is the coolest thing you have ever done?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In terms of dark skies? That\u2019s a tough one! I think my whole job is pretty cool. I\u2019ve got to meet some amazing, knowledgeable people. I get to work to make the places I love better places to be at night, for stars, for human beings, and for our wildlife. On that note, I think the coolest thing ever was being taken out with our ecologist to install some barn owl boxes my project had bought. We were at what is possibly one of the remotest locations in Wales when out of a derelict building the most beautiful Barn Owl flew out right in front of us. I\u2019ve never seen one so close before, or during the day!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>Q: Any dark sky jokes to share?<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">A: I don\u2019t usually tell people my jokes about lights. I like to keep them in the dark.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: How about a funny story that happened in the dark?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">So many! I was rushing with a friend to get to a public stargazing session. We had come straight from the car and didn\u2019t use torches as we wanted to let our eyes start adjusting. I ran straight into and over a picnic bench I completely didn\u2019t see. Seeing stars for sure!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-18478\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" src=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18478\" srcset=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-480x320.jpg 480w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-1440x960.jpg 1440w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-240x160.jpg 240w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-720x480.jpg 720w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/darksky.org\/app\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_9290-1-scaled-2160x1440.jpg 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption pt-4 mx-5 md:mx-0 !mb-0 !mt-0\">Stargazing and Perseid hunting on top of Caer Drweyn, an iron age hillfort in the Clwydian Hills.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Q: Anything else you would like to share?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just a big thank you to DarkSky International for their tireless efforts to keep dark skies on the agenda around the world. You\u2019re doing such good work and it is so wonderful that I get to be a small part of that. Thanks, team DarkSky!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span>Follow Dani on Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DaniDarkSkies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@DaniDarkSkies<\/a><\/span><\/i><i><span>&nbsp;or Instagram <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/dani_darkskies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@dani_darkskies<\/a>.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>To learn more about or join the DarkSky Advocate Network, go<span>&nbsp;<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/darksky.org\/who-we-are\/advocates\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welsh DarkSky Advocate Dani Robertson highlights the impact of light pollution on Welsh stories and wildlife and shares her passion for night swims in Dark Sky Parks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39,"featured_media":18488,"template":"","categories":[1287,633],"tags":[814,108,805,801,800,232,453,806,116,813,804,797,811,798,131,799,681,796,812,808,818,810,803,532,454,809,83,817],"advocacy_type":[123,285],"events_terms":[],"locations_terms":[],"admin_issue":[],"class_list":["post-18458","darksky_news","type-darksky_news","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-monthly-star","category-news","tag-area-of-outstanding-natural-beauty-aonb","tag-astronomy","tag-biodiversity","tag-challenges","tag-clouds","tag-conservation","tag-dani-robertson","tag-dark-sky-officer","tag-darksky-advocate","tag-eryri","tag-glow-worms","tag-immersion","tag-landscapes","tag-legends","tag-lighting","tag-milky-way","tag-monthly-star","tag-myths","tag-national-parks","tag-night-swims","tag-pen-llyn","tag-plas-y-brenin","tag-protected-areas","tag-resources","tag-snowdonia","tag-storytelling","tag-wales","tag-ynys-mon","advocacy_type-advocacy","advocacy_type-monthly-star"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/darksky_news\/18458","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/darksky_news"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/darksky_news"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/39"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/18488"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18458"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18458"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18458"},{"taxonomy":"advocacy_type","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/advocacy_type?post=18458"},{"taxonomy":"events_terms","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/events_terms?post=18458"},{"taxonomy":"locations_terms","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/locations_terms?post=18458"},{"taxonomy":"admin_issue","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darksky.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/admin_issue?post=18458"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}